• AngryishHumanoid@lemmynsfw.com
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    9 days ago

    Boy are you gonna be pissed when you read the Wikipedia article for chav. Or the urban dictionary definition of chav. Or the Merriam Webster definition of chav. Or any of the articles that come up when you Google chav.

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    In this case chatgpt is right though. It might surprise you, but words can have different meanings and those meanings can change over time.

    chav /chăv/ noun

    1. Used as a disparaging term for a poor or uneducated young person, especially one who behaves in a brash or vulgar manner and wears ostentatious clothing and jewelry.
    2. A working-class youth, especially one associated with aggression, poor education, and a perceived “common” taste in clothing and lifestyle.

    Source

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      The Fabian society likes to complain about its use but doesn’t propose an alternative. Icouldn’t see (a UK specific) one on wikipedia, Wiktionary or OED either.
      I can accept that people find it offensive but if they can’t give me an alternative then I have to assume they are trolling.
      Did I just take the bait?

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    The only confusing thing about this little interaction is why people like you exist who think chatgpt has any level of competence or a single viable use case. It’s a fucking trash bot and you’re a slopper, the correct response isn’t to get frustrated it’s to realize you were wrong to trust it. Move on.

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        In which case it is vastly inferior and magnitudes more costly than a local algorithm and dictionary, like the ones we had long before the GPT.

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          The original claim was that ChatGPT has no viable use cases, and grammar correction and text editing clearly disproves that. Whether it’s cheaper or not is just moving the goalposts and doesn’t change the fact that it works and people use it daily. Also, calling it “vastly inferior” is baseless - traditional grammar tools can’t handle nuance, tone, or context the way ChatGPT does.

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            If you invented a new three headed hammer which is in every way worse than a hammer then you’ve invented a thing with zero use case, idiot.

            At least the old tools lacking nuance didn’t lie and gaslight you 1 out of 5 uses.

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              At least the old tools lacking nuance didn’t lie and gaslight you 1 out of 5 uses.

              I’ve never seen ChatGPT do that when asked to correct grammar though. To stay with the analogy, the problem is not that the tool is useless but that people try to use a hammer as a screwdriver and then complain its a bad tool.

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      iknow ChatGPT isn’t that great but i thought it’d be able to answer it i didn’t expect a hateful slur in response

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      “Hey ChatGPT, what word did white Americans use during the slavery times to describe their black slaves?”

      Cue ragebait and “how could it say this???”

  • FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com
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    Oh just fuck off…

    You’re looking for something to be outraged about

    Owen Jones makes the occasional good point, but this isn’t one of them.

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    OP, you’ve been at this for weeks (longer?) and you’re the only one, ever, in the comments who cares that people use the word ‘chav’. Because it’s the best and only viable answer to the question.

    If you actually do want to change things, try to come up with a better word and then try to get people to use it. It can even be an existing word. Language is always changing, and people repurpose words all the time, either because they don’t like the original meaning, or they think the new meaning fits the word better. You can potentially do the same, but it takes a lot more effort than complaining about the original word/meaning.

    If you’re serious about the effort, consider asking ChatGPT — or better yet, some linguists — what a better, less-offensive word could be, and try to use it in conversation. We’ve moved away from words not thought to be offensive at the time which are now considered offensive because we’ve found better words. Like when I was a kid, “retard” was a mean thing to say but it wasn’t really a bad word. Now it is. You still do see the word in science and industry; as a verb, it means to slow or to restrict something (like a valve). As a noun though, as a word to describe a person, it’s bad. The original meaning of “mental retardation” was scientifically and medically accurate, but because it became a noun and a slur we’ve moved to “developmentally disabled.” There are even more liberal words and phrases though, the forefront (to my knowledge) being “person with disability” or “differently abled.”

    So, it can happen, because it has happened. But complaining will ensure that it doesn’t.

    The next time I see a post about this from you in my feed, I’m blocking. I’m just tired of seeing it every few days. That said, if you want to try to change things the right way, I’ll back your play. Up to you.